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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 09:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I add a few more observations, before the guy with the stage hook pulls me out of here?

1.  Style is about choices. Settle on a style that reinforces the identity you want your work or your publication to have--your own style sheet. But let it evolve as usage does, on the weather front where &quot;standard&quot; butts up against &quot;nonstandard.&quot; Same with dictionaries. A lot of our dirty words *are* in them. Pick one you like and let it be part of your style sheet. The Chicago Manual, among stylebooks, is excellent for giving a rationale for such decisions, a way of thinking rather than just a bunch of rules.

2. Compounds seem to evolve toward closed-up-ness. Back when I made my living as a copy editor--copyeditor?--this thing we&#039;re writing on now was a Web site, even to Wired magazine. In Webster&#039;s it still is; American Heritage gives website, and I&#039;ll wager most folks now think that&#039;s &quot;right.&quot; And really, back then, according to Webster&#039;s, I was a copy editor, even though what I did was copyediting. Now, no doubt, I&#039;d be a copyeditor. Or unemployed.

3. On the other hand, even though these words may be evolving toward a closed style, an open style is usually preferable if it conveys the meaning you want. Best not to litter your copy with hyphens.

4. Be guided by meaning--and, like poets, by the music of the words, the way they *feel*. Consider &quot;I&#039;m a word perv; reading about spelling gives me a hard on.&quot; No, it doesn&#039;t; it definitely gives me a hardon. Consider the difference between a &quot;cock sucker&quot; and a &quot;cocksucker,&quot; and certainly between a &quot;mother fucker&quot; and a &quot;motherfucker.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I add a few more observations, before the guy with the stage hook pulls me out of here?</p>
<p>1.  Style is about choices. Settle on a style that reinforces the identity you want your work or your publication to have&#8211;your own style sheet. But let it evolve as usage does, on the weather front where &#8220;standard&#8221; butts up against &#8220;nonstandard.&#8221; Same with dictionaries. A lot of our dirty words *are* in them. Pick one you like and let it be part of your style sheet. The Chicago Manual, among stylebooks, is excellent for giving a rationale for such decisions, a way of thinking rather than just a bunch of rules.</p>
<p>2. Compounds seem to evolve toward closed-up-ness. Back when I made my living as a copy editor&#8211;copyeditor?&#8211;this thing we&#8217;re writing on now was a Web site, even to Wired magazine. In Webster&#8217;s it still is; American Heritage gives website, and I&#8217;ll wager most folks now think that&#8217;s &#8220;right.&#8221; And really, back then, according to Webster&#8217;s, I was a copy editor, even though what I did was copyediting. Now, no doubt, I&#8217;d be a copyeditor. Or unemployed.</p>
<p>3. On the other hand, even though these words may be evolving toward a closed style, an open style is usually preferable if it conveys the meaning you want. Best not to litter your copy with hyphens.</p>
<p>4. Be guided by meaning&#8211;and, like poets, by the music of the words, the way they *feel*. Consider &#8220;I&#8217;m a word perv; reading about spelling gives me a hard on.&#8221; No, it doesn&#8217;t; it definitely gives me a hardon. Consider the difference between a &#8220;cock sucker&#8221; and a &#8220;cocksucker,&#8221; and certainly between a &#8220;mother fucker&#8221; and a &#8220;motherfucker.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an easy one.  

&quot;Come&quot; is always used as a verb. 
Ex.  I&#039;m going to come in your mouth. 

&quot;Cum&quot; is always used as a noun
Ex.  There was cum all over her face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an easy one.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Come&#8221; is always used as a verb.<br />
Ex.  I&#8217;m going to come in your mouth. </p>
<p>&#8220;Cum&#8221; is always used as a noun<br />
Ex.  There was cum all over her face.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 18:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget the flash fiction you can find all of these terms in Louis Friend&#039;s wonderfully filthy books &quot;Freedom is Slavery&quot; and &quot;Life on my Knees.&quot; Reading his work is an education in itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the flash fiction you can find all of these terms in Louis Friend&#8217;s wonderfully filthy books &#8220;Freedom is Slavery&#8221; and &#8220;Life on my Knees.&#8221; Reading his work is an education in itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t feel qualified to weigh in, as I pretty much never use these terms. :) However, I think I&#039;m with Joe, speaking in a strictly clinical, grammatical sense. No reason erotic writing shouldn&#039;t be done properly. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t feel qualified to weigh in, as I pretty much never use these terms. <img src='http://www.pubandbedamned.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  However, I think I&#8217;m with Joe, speaking in a strictly clinical, grammatical sense. No reason erotic writing shouldn&#8217;t be done properly. <img src='http://www.pubandbedamned.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 06:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the way I would use those words.
 
1 blow job.
2 hand job
3 ass cheeks
4 doggy style
5 G spot
6 G string
7 cock slut, I like that one, it sounds dirty and things that sound dirty excite me. What can I say, Honey? I&#039;m a Dirty Old Man.
 
8 bare assed, now on this one, my spell check, really gave me big balls! It doesn&#039;t like ASSED!
I guess it wants us to use something less exciting. Well maybe you say something like this, &quot;butt naked&quot; That&#039;s not too hot, but spell check didn&#039;t break my balls about it either.
 
Or you can, just say to yourself, Screw it, and add it to your dictionary. That&#039;s what I just did.
 
9 fuckfest this is another one, spell check doesn&#039;t like either!
 
That freaking spell check thing, doesn&#039;t like anything that sounds HOT.
Needless to say I like fuckfest!  So Screw grammar and spell check!
I&#039;m adding fuckfest to my Dictionary too. 
 
10 butt plug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the way I would use those words.</p>
<p>1 blow job.<br />
2 hand job<br />
3 ass cheeks<br />
4 doggy style<br />
5 G spot<br />
6 G string<br />
7 cock slut, I like that one, it sounds dirty and things that sound dirty excite me. What can I say, Honey? I&#8217;m a Dirty Old Man.</p>
<p>8 bare assed, now on this one, my spell check, really gave me big balls! It doesn&#8217;t like ASSED!<br />
I guess it wants us to use something less exciting. Well maybe you say something like this, &#8220;butt naked&#8221; That&#8217;s not too hot, but spell check didn&#8217;t break my balls about it either.</p>
<p>Or you can, just say to yourself, Screw it, and add it to your dictionary. That&#8217;s what I just did.</p>
<p>9 fuckfest this is another one, spell check doesn&#8217;t like either!</p>
<p>That freaking spell check thing, doesn&#8217;t like anything that sounds HOT.<br />
Needless to say I like fuckfest!  So Screw grammar and spell check!<br />
I&#8217;m adding fuckfest to my Dictionary too. </p>
<p>10 butt plug</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 20:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Laurel, I&#039;ll compose an alphabetical list of dirty words that are not found in a standard reference text. I&#039;ll include the variant spellings for every word for as we have discovered there is a lot of debate amongst erotic writers and editors.  I&#039;ll update the list as others leave comments on words they want included.   

Thanks for the suggestion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Laurel, I&#8217;ll compose an alphabetical list of dirty words that are not found in a standard reference text. I&#8217;ll include the variant spellings for every word for as we have discovered there is a lot of debate amongst erotic writers and editors.  I&#8217;ll update the list as others leave comments on words they want included.   </p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestion!</p>
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		<title>By: Laurel Caine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel Caine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 20:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohh. Yes, please. That would be fantastic. =] I usually end up spending far too much time worrying about the spellings rather than the context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohh. Yes, please. That would be fantastic. =] I usually end up spending far too much time worrying about the spellings rather than the context.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 19:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, everybody!  You writers really came out of the woodwork to help a girl out.  

Variant spellings are the blessing and the curse of the English language.  After reading your comments I think I&#039;m going to take City Different&#039;s advice and create a style sheet based on my own preferred spellings and stick with it.  Such is the luxury of having one&#039;s own publishing company—the House Style trumps all other styles.  Muwahahhahahaha!!

I still don&#039;t agree that &quot;hardon&quot; should be a closed compound.  It just looks weird to me.  

Laurel, I can certainly expand this list further if you like.  I have a whole list of dirty words that I&#039;ve complied since getting into the erotica biz (for copyediting purposes).  Yep, I&#039;m really making great use of that English Degree I paid so much for.  My mother would be very proud. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, everybody!  You writers really came out of the woodwork to help a girl out.  </p>
<p>Variant spellings are the blessing and the curse of the English language.  After reading your comments I think I&#8217;m going to take City Different&#8217;s advice and create a style sheet based on my own preferred spellings and stick with it.  Such is the luxury of having one&#8217;s own publishing company—the House Style trumps all other styles.  Muwahahhahahaha!!</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t agree that &#8220;hardon&#8221; should be a closed compound.  It just looks weird to me.  </p>
<p>Laurel, I can certainly expand this list further if you like.  I have a whole list of dirty words that I&#8217;ve complied since getting into the erotica biz (for copyediting purposes).  Yep, I&#8217;m really making great use of that English Degree I paid so much for.  My mother would be very proud. <img src='http://www.pubandbedamned.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Laurel Caine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel Caine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 07:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There really should be a dirty dictionary. Any chance of expanding this list further? 

(Also, I see &quot;hard-on&quot; more often than the alternative.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There really should be a dirty dictionary. Any chance of expanding this list further? </p>
<p>(Also, I see &#8220;hard-on&#8221; more often than the alternative.)</p>
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		<title>By: Monocle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monocle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 03:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t used any these often. Plus I&#039;m sure if I have used any in more than one place, I&#039;ve been inconsistent.  You do realize that if you added a sentence around each of these words right now you&#039;d have one of the filthiest pieces of flash fiction ever invented?

Here&#039;s my take:

1. blowjob
2. handjob
3.  asscheeks
4.  doggy-style
5.  G spot
6. g-string
7.  cock slut or cockslut  &lt; Both. Context dependent, imo
8. bare-assed
9.  fuckfest
10.  strap-on dildo
11. hardon  but don&#039;t confuse it with hadron
12. butt plug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t used any these often. Plus I&#8217;m sure if I have used any in more than one place, I&#8217;ve been inconsistent.  You do realize that if you added a sentence around each of these words right now you&#8217;d have one of the filthiest pieces of flash fiction ever invented?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my take:</p>
<p>1. blowjob<br />
2. handjob<br />
3.  asscheeks<br />
4.  doggy-style<br />
5.  G spot<br />
6. g-string<br />
7.  cock slut or cockslut  &lt; Both. Context dependent, imo<br />
8. bare-assed<br />
9.  fuckfest<br />
10.  strap-on dildo<br />
11. hardon  but don&#039;t confuse it with hadron<br />
12. butt plug</p>
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